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Title: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting [Complete]
Post by: Fatebringer on April 14, 2010, 03:09:03 PM
28 March 3069
Zenith Point
Planting System

Over two dozen jump signatures began appearing nearly at the same time. Only those with great naval training could enter so close to each other without tearing each other apart. The sycronization of their arrival left little doubt to who had arrived.

Those aboard the approaching ships knew what was here and that today, they would right a very old wrong. Of all the Not-Named ships they had sunk so far, this by far was the most important. Spotting vessels moving thru the area noticed the ship recharging it's batteries along with the rest of the fleet. The Raven Fleet had planned on engaging their prey at New Caledonia, had they not recieved the report, they may have very well sailed right past it, but when they heard it was actually one system closer on their route, they prepared all the boarding crews and fighters for immediate launch. The result? Within seconds of materializing, dropships were disembarking and launching fighters, Naval weapons flashed to life without even waiting to scan the system...the Unkindness was on the hunt.

"Sink the Bismark" Hunting Fleet - 780.25 FP
Snow Raven Battle Group (Nightlord), Elite / Fanatical, 50 FP - VIP: saKhan Bryn Cooper
Bonaventure Battle Group (Potemkin), Elite / Fanatical, 81 FP
Corvidae Battle Group (York), Elite / Fanatical, 47.25 FP
Ark Royal Battle Group (Conqueror), Elite / Fanatical, 44.5 FP
Blue Lancer Battle Group (Aegis), Elite / Fanatical, 40 FP
Storm Crow Battle Group (Sovetskii Soyuz), Elite / Fanatical, 36.25 FP
Kerensky's Hope Battle Group (Cameron), Elite / Fanatical, 30.75 FP
Ice Storm Battle Group (Cameron), Elite / Fanatical, 30.75 FP
Tenacity Battle Group (Volga), Elite / Fanatical, 28.5 FP
Nestling Battle Group (Carrack), Elite / Fanatical, 23 FP
Venture Star Battle Group (Carrack), Elite / Fanatical, 23 FP
Eternity Battle Group (Essex), Elite / Fanatical, 12.25 FP
Cold Hunter Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Vision of Terra Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Bloody Talon Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Drake Battle Group (Whirlwind), Elite / Fanatical, 9.75 FP
Huninn Battle Group (Vincent Mk 42), Elite / Fanatical, 5.25 FP
Shield of Alshain Battle Group (Texas), Veteran / Reliable, 35.75 FP
James McKenna Battle Group (McKenna), Regular / Fanatical, 35.75 FP
Browning Battle Group (Winchester), Regular / Reliable, 24.75 FP
Korsht Gift Battle Group (Sovetskii Soyuz (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 20 FP
Narbonne Battle Group (Dante), Regular / Reliable, 10 FP
Spur Battle Group (Lola III), Regular / Reliable, 7.75 FP
Carter Battle Group (Carson), Regular / Reliable, 5.25 FP
Raubvogel Battle Group (Lola I), Regular / Reliable, 5 FP
Faithful Battle Group (Lola III (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 4 FP
Otranto Battle Group (Volga (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 3.5 FP
Dreadnought Battle Group (Monsoon LF), Green / Reliable, 35.75 FP

4th Raven Wing Cluster, Elite / Fanatical, 33 FP
5th Raven Wing Cluster, Veteran / Fanatical, 27 FP
9th Raven Wing Cluster, Veteran / Reliable, 27.25 FP

Mech Marine Contingent, Regular / Reliable, 8 FP
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Dave Baughman on April 14, 2010, 03:36:38 PM
OOC - guess I don't need to post my friendly territory movement thread  :o
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 14, 2010, 04:16:49 PM
OOC: Map has not been updatd in a while. DC informed me this is a DC hex. Please move to Inner Sphere Combat Threads.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Dave Baughman on April 14, 2010, 08:09:29 PM
"Recharge status report?" asked the Admiral.

"Close to full. If we can break through the enemy line, we'll be able to jump out of the system."

"Very well, alert all commands: battle stations. Prepare to engage the enemy."




Josh has expressed interest in possibly playing this one in MegaMek - if it works for you guys, enjoy the fight. If not, please let me know so I can roll for simple resolution.


TH Sixth Fleet - 226.25 FP
Texas (Bismark)      Mobile   Elite   Reliable   35
Lola III (Strength Through Adversity)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Baron (Light of Charity)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Sovetskii Soyuz (Harmonious Thought)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   22.5
Lola III (Holy Martyrdom)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Black Lion (Rays of Enlightenment) - Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   12.25
Essex (Divine Forgiveness) -- Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   6
Essex (Deliverance) - Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   6
Baron (Light of Faith)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   7.5
Lola III (Guarded Knowledge)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Essex (Righteous Honor) - Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   6
Black Lion (Blake Ascendant)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   28.5
Lola III (Yukon)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Aegis (Saratoga)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   22.5
Essex (Hammerstrike)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Carson (Sword of Promise)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Baron (Light of Hope)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 14, 2010, 08:30:22 PM
Sure thing, will work out the details with him for 1 Round of Naval Engagement before the Bismarck can try and Leave.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 25, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
http://intelser.org/forums/index.php?topic=76.msg2031#msg2031
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 25, 2010, 06:40:02 PM
"Now that we know which of the Black Lions will not be firing on us anymore, Target target the other one. Make her pay for what she did to the Kerensky's Hope!"
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 27, 2010, 02:38:13 PM
Fight# 1

Snow Raven Battle Group (Nightlord), Elite / Fanatical, 50 FP
Ark Royal Battle Group (Conqueror), Elite / Fanatical, 44.5 FP
Shield of Alshain Battle Group (Texas), Veteran / Reliable, 35.75 FP
James McKenna Battle Group (McKenna), Regular / Fanatical, 35.75 FP
Korsht Gift Battle Group (Sovetskii Soyuz (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 20 FP
Narbonne Battle Group (Dante), Regular / Reliable, 10 FP
Dreadnought Battle Group (Monsoon LF), Green / Reliable, 35.75 FP
Bonaventure Battle Group (Potemkin), Elite / Fanatical, 81 FP
Storm Crow Battle Group (Sovetskii Soyuz), Elite / Fanatical, 36.25 FP
Kerensky's Hope Battle Group (Cameron), Elite / Fanatical, 30.75 FP
Marine Contingent, Regular / Reliable, 8 FP

Vs.

Texas (Bismark)      Mobile   Elite   Reliable   35
Black Lion (Blake Ascendant)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   28.5
Black Lion (Rays of Enlightenment) - Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   12.25
Aegis (Saratoga)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   22.5
Lola III (Yukon)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10


QuoteVictory for Clan Snow Raven!

Winner is: TEAM #2

LittleH13: 0 BV remaining (from 1395168 initially) 0 BV fled
Fatebringer: 1453172 BV remaining (from 2365058 initially) 0 BV fled

Survivors are:
Nightlord 0 (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Snow Raven [2/3]
Kills : 2

Conqueror 0 (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Ark Royal [2/3]
Kills : 1

Texas Clan (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Shield of Alshain [3/4]
Kills : 0

Monsoon LF Battery (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Dreadnought [5/6]
Kills : 0

Potemkin Clan (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Bonaventure [2/3]
Kills : 0

Sovetskii Soyuz Clan (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Storm Crow [2/3]
Kills : 1

Sovetskii Soyuz 0 (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Korsht [4/5]
Kills : 0

Doomsday 1 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 1

Doomsday 2 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 0

Doomsday 3 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 0

Doomsday 4 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 1

Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 1

Malicious Intents 1 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0

Malicious Intents 2 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0

Malicious Intents 3 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0

Malicious Intents 4 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0


Graveyard contains:
Noruff 0 (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Black Lion 0 #2 (LittleH13)

Achilles (Upgrade) (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Lola III (LittleH13)

Mule Q-Ship (LittleH13)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Conqueror 0 (Fatebringer)

A Squadron (LittleH13)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by pilot error.

Noruff 0 #2 (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Black Lion 0 (LittleH13)

Carrier Fighter Carrier (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 1
Destroyed by Texas 0 (LittleH13)

Carrier Fighter Carrier #2 (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Aegis (2750) (LittleH13)

Achilles (Upgrade) #2 (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Black Lion 0 (LittleH13)

Black Lion 0 #2 (LittleH13)
Driver : Rays of Enlightenment [3/4]
Kills : 3
Destroyed by Aegis (2750) (LittleH13)

Overlord A3 (LittleH13)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Sovetskii Soyuz Clan (Fatebringer)

Overlord A3 #2 (LittleH13)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 2
Destroyed by McKenna Clan (Fatebringer)

Pentagon WoB (LittleH13)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 1
Destroyed by Doomsday 1 Squadron (Fatebringer)

D Squadron (LittleH13)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by pilot error.

Dante 0 (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Narbonne [4/5]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Aegis (2750) (LittleH13)

Malicious Intents 5 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [3/4]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by pilot error.

McKenna Clan (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS James McKenna [4/5]
Kills : 1
Destroyed by Texas 0 (LittleH13)

Doomsday 5 Squadron (Fatebringer)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by pilot error.

Texas 0 (LittleH13)
Driver : THS Bismarck [2/3]
Kills : 3
Destroyed by Nightlord 0 (Fatebringer)

Lola III (LittleH13)
Driver : Yukon [3/4] ( 1 hit(s) )
Kills : 2
Destroyed by Doomsday 4 Squadron (Fatebringer)

Aegis (2750) (LittleH13)
Driver : Saratoga [3/4] ( 1 hit(s) )
Kills : 4
Destroyed by Squadron (Fatebringer)

B Squadron (LittleH13)
Driver : Unnamed [2/3]
Kills : 1
Destroyed by pilot error.

Black Lion 0 (LittleH13)
Driver : Blake Ascendant [3/4] ( 3 hit(s) )
Kills : 4
Destroyed by Nightlord 0 (Fatebringer)


Cameron Clan (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Kerensky's Hope [2/3]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Black Lion 0 #2 (LittleH13)

All of the following battles are being fought simultaneously.

Actual Battle

CSR: 157.75 FP
TH: 93 FP

Survived

CSR: 98 FP
TH: 0 FP

CSR Captures THS Rays of Enlightenment  - 9.75 FP

CSR: 107.75
TH: 0

The remaining BV not used in the fight needs to be simrezzed out. (Roll 1)

Fight #1 (Simrez)

CSRS: 213
TH: 15.25

====================================================================

Fight #2 (Simrez)

Corvidae Battle Group (York), Elite / Fanatical, 47.25 FP
Tenacity Battle Group (Volga), Elite / Fanatical, 28.5 FP
Eternity Battle Group (Essex), Elite / Fanatical, 12.25 FP
Cold Hunter Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Blue Lancer Battle Group (Aegis), Elite / Fanatical, 40 FP
Carter Battle Group (Carson), Regular / Reliable, 5.25 FP
Otranto Battle Group (Volga (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 3.5 FP
9th Raven Wing Cluster, Veteran / Reliable, 27.25 FP

vs

Carson (Sword of Promise)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Baron (Light of Charity)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Baron (Light of Faith)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   7.5
Baron (Light of Hope)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Essex (Deliverance) - Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   6
Essex (Divine Forgiveness) -- Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   6

====================================================================

Fight #3 (Simrez)

ce Storm Battle Group (Cameron), Elite / Fanatical, 30.75 FP
Bloody Talon Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Drake Battle Group (Whirlwind), Elite / Fanatical, 9.75 FP
Huninn Battle Group (Vincent Mk 42), Elite / Fanatical, 5.25 FP
Browning Battle Group (Winchester), Regular / Reliable, 24.75 FP
Spur Battle Group (Lola III), Regular / Reliable, 7.75 FP
Raubvogel Battle Group (Lola I), Regular / Reliable, 5 FP
Faithful Battle Group (Lola III (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 4 FP
22nd Tactical Air Wing, Elite / Fanatical, 17.75 FP - (Due to extreme fragility, the Nestling (Carrack) will not get involved)
53th Tactical Air Wing, Elite / Fanaticall, 5.75 FP - (Due to RP reasons, the Visions of Terra (Lola III) herself will not get involved)
54th Tactical Air Wing, Elite / Fanatical, 17.75 FP - (Due to extreme fragility, the Venture Star (Carrack) will not get involved)
4th Raven Wing Cluster, Elite / Fanatical, 33 FP
5th Raven Wing Cluster, Veteran / Fanatical, 27 FP

vs

Sovetskii Soyuz (Harmonious Thought)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   22.5
Lola III (Guarded Knowledge)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Lola III (Holy Martyrdom)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Lola III (Strength Through Adversity)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Essex (Hammerstrike)      Mobile   Veteran   Reliable   10
Essex (Righteous Honor) - Survivors      Transported   Veteran   Reliable   6
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: LittleH13 on April 27, 2010, 02:47:42 PM
The following is a roll for all ships that were destroyed. They need 10+ to be salvagalbe. The BL #2 was captured and is not considered to destroyed and is at 60% and now has a 4/5 crew once it is manned. The roll below a ship is for that ship.


-Josh


Cameron Clan (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Kerensky's Hope [2/3]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Black Lion 0 #2 (LittleH13)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 1, total 5[/blockquote]


Dante 0 (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS Narbonne [4/5]
Kills : 0
Destroyed by Aegis (2750) (LittleH13)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 2, total 7[/blockquote]

McKenna Clan (Fatebringer)
Driver : CSRS James McKenna [4/5]
Kills : 1
Destroyed by Texas 0 (LittleH13)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 1, total 6[/blockquote]

Texas 0 (LittleH13)
Driver : THS Bismarck [2/3]
Kills : 3
Destroyed by Nightlord 0 (Fatebringer)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 4, total 8[/blockquote]

Lola III (LittleH13)
Driver : Yukon [3/4] ( 1 hit(s) )
Kills : 2
Destroyed by Doomsday 4 Squadron (Fatebringer)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 2, total 7[/blockquote]

Aegis (2750) (LittleH13)
Driver : Saratoga [3/4] ( 1 hit(s) )
Kills : 4
Destroyed by Squadron (Fatebringer)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 2, total 4[/blockquote]

Black Lion 0 (LittleH13)
Driver : Blake Ascendant [3/4] ( 3 hit(s) )
Kills : 4
Destroyed by Nightlord 0 (Fatebringer)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 5, total 7[/blockquote]


Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 27, 2010, 03:05:03 PM
I acknowledge no surviving ships. The following are my simrez rolls as listed above.

Simrez 1 - Fight 1 - Leftover BV not used in Battle.

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 3, total 9[/blockquote]

Simrez 2 - Fight 2

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 5, total 6[/blockquote]

Simrez 3 - Fight 3

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 3, total 4[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 27, 2010, 03:05:53 PM
Crit Roll for Fight 1 - Leftover BV not used in Battle

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 6, total 12[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 27, 2010, 03:06:50 PM
Unless I capture them, this is pretty much useless ;) Too bad I didn't get this for the actual fight :)

Roll 1

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 2, total 7[/blockquote]

Roll 2

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 4, total 5[/blockquote]

Roll 3

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 4, total 6[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 27, 2010, 03:23:48 PM
Fight #1 (Simrez)

Outnumbers Opponent 3:1 - Roll 9 - Deal 80% of FP to Opponent

CSRS: 213
TH: 15.25

CSR Deals 213 * .8 =  170.5 FP to Opponent

5 Opponent receives -1 on all future rolls this combat (CO killed).
6 Valor saves the day: reduce damage done to you by 15%, increase damage done to your opponent by 10%.
7 Valor saves the day: reduce damage done to you by 20%, increase damage done to your opponent by 15%.

CSR Deals 213 * 1.05 =  223.75 FP to Opponent
CSR Reduced damage taken by 35%
CO of the THS Bismarck Killed in his escape pod ;)

====================================================================

Outnumbers Opponent 3:1 - Roll 6 - Deal 65% of FP to Opponent

Fight #2 (Simrez)

CSR: 175.75 FP
TH: 49.5 FP

CSR Deals 175.75 * .65 = 114.25 FP to the TH forces.

====================================================================

Outnumbers Opponent 3:1 - Roll 4 - Deal 50% of FP to Opponent

Fight #3 (Simrez)

CSR: 199.75
TH: 68.5

CSR Deals 199.75 * .5 = 100 FP to the TH forces
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: LittleH13 on April 28, 2010, 01:52:07 AM
Simrez 1 - Fight 1 - Leftover BV not used in Battle.

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 6, total 12[/blockquote]


Simrez 2 - Fight 2


[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 4, total 8[/blockquote]


Simrez 3 - Fight 3

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 1, total 7[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: LittleH13 on April 28, 2010, 01:55:05 AM
Crit roll for Fight 1

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 4, total 8[/blockquote]


Crit roll for Fight 2

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 2, total 4[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: LittleH13 on April 28, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Roll for critical event for fight 1

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 5, total 9[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 28, 2010, 02:18:23 AM
Fight #1 (Simrez)

CSR: Outnumbers Opponent 3:1 - Roll 9 - Deal 80% of FP to Opponent
TH: Outnumbered 3:1 - Roll 12 - Deals 75% of FP to Opponent

CSRS: 213
TH: 15.25

CSR Deals 213 * .8 =  170.5 FP to Opponent
TH Deals 15.25 * .75 = 11.5 FP to Opponent

CSR Crits
5 Opponent receives -1 on all future rolls this combat (CO killed).
6 Valor saves the day: reduce damage done to you by 15%, increase damage done to your opponent by 10%.
7 Valor saves the day: reduce damage done to you by 20%, increase damage done to your opponent by 15%.

TH Crit
9 Encircle and capture 20% of opponent, add that FU to salvage

CSR Deals 213 * 1.05 =  223.75 FP to Opponent
CO of the THS Bismarck Killed in his escape pod Wink

TH Deals 15.25 * .4 = 6 FP to Opponent
Captures of Raven Forces adds 15.25 * .2 = 3 FP to Salvage Pool.

Final FP Totals
CSR: 204 FP
TH: 0 FP

====================================================================

CSR: Outnumbers Opponent 3:1 - Roll 6 - Deal 65% of FP to Opponent
TH: Outnumbered 3:1 - Rolls 8 - Deals 50% of FP to Opponent

Fight #2 (Simrez)

CSR: 175.75 FP
TH: 49.5 FP

CSR Deals 175.75 * .65 = 114.25 FP to the TH forces.
TH Deals 49.5 * .5 = 24.75 FP to the CSR Forces.

TH: No Crit

Final FP Totals
CSR: 151
TH: 0

====================================================================

CSR: Outnumbers Opponent 3:1 - Roll 4 - Deal 50% of FP to Opponent
TH: Outnumbered 3:1 - Roll 7 - Deals 45% of FP to Opponent

Fight #3 (Simrez)

CSR: 199.75
TH: 68.5

CSR Deals 199.75 * .5 = 100 FP to the TH forces
TH Deals 68.5 * .45 = 30.75 FP to the CSR forces

Final FP Totals

CSR: 169
TH: 0
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 28, 2010, 02:38:22 AM
Total Losses on Both side = 344.75 FP

Salvage Roll
10 (Battle) + 2D6

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6+10 : 6, 3 + 10, total 19[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 28, 2010, 02:44:48 AM
344.75 * .19 (+3 for Crit Roll) = 68.5 FP in Salvage

Total CSR Losses = 124.25 *.10 (Battlefield Recovery) = 12.5 FP Recovered
TH do not gain from Battlefield Recovery or Salvage.


Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: LittleH13 on April 28, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
This is the salvage roll for the hulks of the following ships......Any ships that have a roll of 10+ under them are salvagable.


Sword of Promise (Carson)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 4, total 9[/blockquote]


Harmonious Thought (Sovetskii Soyuz)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 3, 2, total 5[/blockquote]


Guarded Knowledge (Lola III)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 5, total 10[/blockquote]


Holy Martyrdom (Lola III)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 4, total 6[/blockquote]


Strength Through Adversity (Lola III)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 1, total 3[/blockquote]


Deliverance (Essex)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 3, 5, total 8[/blockquote]

Divine Forgiveness (Essex)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 2, total 6[/blockquote]


Hammerstrike(Essex)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 6, total 7[/blockquote]


Righteous Honor(Essex)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 1, total 3[/blockquote]


Light of Charity (Baron)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 4, total 8[/blockquote]


Light of Faith (Baron)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 5, total 10[/blockquote]


Light of Hope (Baron)

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 3, 3, total 6[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: LittleH13 on April 28, 2010, 02:59:04 AM
The following ships took damage and need a 5+ to survive the simres.



Corvidae Battle Group (York), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 4, total 9[/blockquote]


Tenacity Battle Group (Volga), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 6, total 8[/blockquote]


Eternity Battle Group (Essex), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 5, total 10[/blockquote]


Cold Hunter Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 4, total 10[/blockquote]


Blue Lancer Battle Group (Aegis), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 3, total 7[/blockquote]


Carter Battle Group (Carson), Regular / Reliable,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 4, total 5[/blockquote]

Otranto Battle Group (Volga (SL)), Regular / Reliable

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 4, total 6[/blockquote]


Ice Storm Battle Group (Cameron),

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 4, total 8[/blockquote]


Ice Storm Battle Group (Cameron), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 3, total 8[/blockquote]


Bloody Talon Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 3, total 8[/blockquote]


Drake Battle Group (Whirlwind), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 2, total 3[/blockquote]


Huninn Battle Group (Vincent Mk 42), Elite / Fanatical,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 6, total 8[/blockquote]


Browning Battle Group (Winchester), Regular / Reliable

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 1, total 2[/blockquote]


Spur Battle Group (Lola III), Regular / Reliable,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 4, total 10[/blockquote]


Raubvogel Battle Group (Lola I), Regular / Reliable,

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 5, total 10[/blockquote]


Faithful Battle Group (Lola III (SL)), Regular / Reliable

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 4, total 5[/blockquote]

Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 28, 2010, 04:36:16 AM
CSR Units
Snow Raven Battle Group (Nightlord), Elite / Fanatical, 50 FP
Bonaventure Battle Group (Potemkin), Elite / Fanatical, 81 FP
Corvidae Battle Group (York), Elite / Fanatical, 47.25 FP
Ark Royal Battle Group (Conqueror), Elite / Fanatical, 19.5 FP (- 25 FP)
Blue Lancer Battle Group (Aegis), Elite / Fanatical, 40 FP
Storm Crow Battle Group (Sovetskii Soyuz), Elite / Fanatical, 36.25 FP
Shield of Alshain Battle Group (Texas), Veteran / Reliable, 10.75 FP (-25 FP)
Dreadnought Battle Group (Monsoon LF), Green / Reliable, 15.25 FP (-20.25 FP)
Ice Storm Battle Group (Cameron), Elite / Fanatical, 30.75 FP
Tenacity Battle Group (Volga), Elite / Fanatical, 28.5 FP
Nestling Battle Group (Carrack), Elite / Fanatical, 23 FP
Venture Star Battle Group (Carrack), Elite / Fanatical, 23 FP
Korsht Gift Battle Group (Sovetskii Soyuz (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 20 FP
Eternity Battle Group (Essex), Elite / Fanatical, 12.25 FP
Cold Hunter Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Vision of Terra Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Bloody Talon Battle Group (Lola III), Elite / Fanatical, 11.75 FP
Spur Battle Group (Lola III), Regular / Reliable, 7.75 FP
Huninn Battle Group (Vincent Mk 42), Elite / Fanatical, 5.25 FP
Carter Battle Group (Carson), Regular / Reliable, 5.25 FP
Raubvogel Battle Group (Lola I), Regular / Reliable, 5 FP
Faithful Battle Group (Lola III (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 4 FP
Otranto Battle Group (Volga (SL)), Regular / Reliable, 3.5 FP

Mobile Raven Clusters
4th Raven Wing Cluster, Elite / Fanatical, 33 FP
5th Raven Wing Cluster, Veteran / Fanatical, 27 FP
9th Raven Wing Cluster, Veteran / Reliable, 27.25 FP

Unassigned Escorts (Lost Warships)
11th Tactical Air Wing, Regular / Reliable, 21.5 FP
24th Tactical Air Wing, Elite / Fanatical, 17.5 FP
50th Tactical Air Wing, Elite / Fanatical, 3 FP
78th Tactical Air Wing, Regular / Reliable, 20 FP
98th Tactical Air Wing, Regular / Reliable, 2.25 FP

Mech Marine Contingent, Regular / Reliable, 1 FP (-7 FP)

Rays of Enlightenment (Black Lion) Regular / Reliable, 9.75 FP - Captured

Guarded Knowledge (Lola III (SL)) - Salvagable - 0 FP
Light of Faith (Baron) - Salvagable - 0 FP


Battlefield Recovery (10%) - 12.5
Battlefield Salvage (19%) - 68.5

Lost CSR Vessels
James McKenna Battle Group (McKenna) - Destroyed
Kerensky's Hope Battle Group (Cameron) - Destroyed
Drake Battle Group (Whirlwind) - Destroyed
Browning Battle Group (Winchester) - Destroyed
Narbonne Battle Group (Dante) - Destroyed

Lost TH Vessels
Bismarck (Texas) - Destroyed
Blake Ascendant (Black Lion) - Destroyed
Saratoga (Aegis) - Destroyed
Sword of Promise (Carson) - Destroyed
Harmonious Thought (Sovetskii Soyuz) - Destroyed
Holy Martyrdom (Lola III) - Destroyed
Strength Through Adversity (Lola III) - Destroyed
Yukon (Lola III) - Destroyed
Deliverance (Essex) - Destroyed
Divine Forgiveness (Essex) - Destroyed
Hammerstrike(Essex) - Destroyed
Righteous Honor(Essex) - Destroyed
Light of Charity (Baron) - Destroyed
Light of Hope (Baron) - Destroyed
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 28, 2010, 05:20:30 PM
Someone pointed out to me that the destroyed Raven ships from the Simrez need Salvage rolls on 10+

Drake Battle Group (Whirlwind) - Destroyed
[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 5, total 6[/blockquote]

Browning Battle Group (Winchester) - Destroyed
[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 4, total 9[/blockquote]

Thanks Marlin, even if they don't make it, you gave em a chance ;)
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Marlin on April 28, 2010, 05:58:35 PM
I am deeply sorry and mourn your loss.

However, I am surprised there is another Cold Hunter out there.. the Hellions have the same.

Bravo to the Snow Ravens.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 28, 2010, 06:16:51 PM
(Funny you should mention that... :))
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Parmenion on April 30, 2010, 03:19:04 PM
My apologies for intruding on your thread, but is the Drake and Browning actually destroyed?

Yes, they failed their 5+ rolls in regards Fight #3, however the Terran's only did 30.75FP damage to the CSR forces in that fight.  I've seen before when Oliveash distributed the FP losses evenly across all the different units in a naval fight such as this.  The smaller ships got ravaged, but the larger ships (such as Luxors), survived.

So you might find that the Drake and Browning only suffered around 3FP in actual damage, which is less than their total FP ship value.

Just a thought (and unless we have new battle damage breakup determinations).

Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 03:27:56 PM
I'm no certain about rules :P GM please advise.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Marlin on April 30, 2010, 03:40:42 PM
I copy Parms judgement here, damage distribution in SimpRes is usually quite arbitrary.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 03:43:23 PM
So unless GM's state otherwise it will read like the others. "Damage sustained not enough to sink ship." on my orders.

On the downside, :P Now I gotta redo my orders :P
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Iron Mongoose on April 30, 2010, 03:43:34 PM
The rule used most recently is that if a ship roles for being killed, you assign all your damage first to thouse ships untill they are either all killed or you run out of damage.  So with 30 damage, it may mean that each takes 15 damage and is distroyed while others take none at all.

Olive was constantly working on trying to figure out the best system, and a lot of the older ones were rejected as being unworkable, I think.  I don't much like this new system, but it is the one, as I understand it.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Holt on April 30, 2010, 03:53:49 PM
Rules just state if it is used in simple res it needs to roll 5+, thats why i did not commit my warships at Schwartz for simple res.

Also:
QuoteFight #1 (Simrez)

CSR: Outnumbers Opponent 3:1 - Roll 9 - Deal 80% of FP to Opponent
TH: Outnumbered 3:1 - Roll 12 - Deals 75% of FP to Opponent

CSRS: 213
TH: 15.25

CSR Deals 213 * .8 =  170.5 FP to Opponent
TH Deals 15.25 * .75 = 11.5 FP to Opponent

CSR Crits
5 Opponent receives -1 on all future rolls this combat (CO killed).
6 Valor saves the day: reduce damage done to you by 15%, increase damage done to your opponent by 10%.
7 Valor saves the day: reduce damage done to you by 20%, increase damage done to your opponent by 15%.

TH Crit
9 Encircle and capture 20% of opponent, add that FU to salvage

CSR Deals 213 * 1.05 =  223.75 FP to Opponent
CO of the THS Bismarck Killed in his escape pod Wink

TH Deals 15.25 * .4 = 6 FP to Opponent
Captures of Raven Forces adds 15.25 * .2 = 3 FP to Salvage Pool.

Final FP Totals
CSR: 204 FP
TH: 0 FP


The TH captured 20% of the Raven force so 213FP (committed raven FP) times 20% is 42.5FP.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 03:57:55 PM
Nice try. It is 20% of their FP, not their opponents, the same way damage is done.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Holt on April 30, 2010, 04:06:32 PM
Wrong its 20% of opponent, in the rules clear as day; it sucks trust me, i had two of those at Alshain. The way you say it would be '20% of your FP is captured from opponent'.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
Either way, unit was destroyed, all of that FP would return to me after the combat as salvage.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: NVA on April 30, 2010, 04:32:34 PM
Wrong.  At Grumium, even though the unit was destroyed, the Exiles still kept what they gained via crit.  I have seen this applied elsewhere as well.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: DisGruntled on April 30, 2010, 04:44:17 PM
The TH force was wiped out though in round 1 wasn't it?  In the past when a force is completely wiped out, the encircled portions been converted to extra damage as well since it makes no sense for something to be captured whene there's nothing there to do any capturing.

I really think the encirclements should be moved to spots 10 and 11 on the chart as their the best things on it other then outright victory.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
I'm going off of what the rules state here guys. Hold off "advising" me any futher until we here from a GM.

Per the event listed in the rules...

9 Encircle and capture 20% of opponent, add that FU to salvage.

I have claimed all the salvage as the only party present.

Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Dave Baughman on April 30, 2010, 08:44:44 PM
Hi guys, hopefully this will clarify some of the questions raised here:


1 - Resolving WarShip saving through failures

Please see the text of the current rule, quoted below:

Quote
If a WarShip unit takes any damage during simple resolution (but not enough to destroy the entire unit), roll 2d6. On a roll of 5 or less, apply all available damage to the portion of the unit's FP representing the WarShip itself (bypassing fighters, dropships, and other support units). If enough damage was sustained to deplete the WarShip's FP to zero, the WarShip is destroyed.

If a WarShip is lost in this fashion but the overall unit still has FP (from support units), these units become a separate transported 'survivor' unit.

Unless the WarShip has a very high base FP or the amount of damage inflict is very low, a WarShip threatened by a failure of the "5 or less" saving through, it is in significant peril.

While the language above has been clarified, the rule itself has not changed from the CBT incarnation.


2 - Function of "capture" criticals

Quote
8 Encircle and capture 10% of opponent, add that FP to salvage.
9 Encircle and capture 20% of opponent, add that FP to salvage.

In both cases, the amount captured is a percentage of the enemy's force. This hasn't changed in terms of the language of the rule since turn 20, though it hasn't always been consistently implemented.

Since the FP gained is treated as successfully recovered salvage, if the force gaining it is subsequently wiped out (not the same as withdrawing or even being ejected from the system) the salvage would be left lying around to be claimed by whoever ends up in control of the field. This also hasn't been implemented consistently in the past, leading to all kinds of confusion over how the rule is supposed to work.




3. Capture + Wipeout synergy

The outcome of critical event results are applied before the damage inflicted "takes effect." Otherwise, the +15/-20 damage modifying critical events would not function correctly.

Consequently, heavy damage inflicted on the enemy will not "destroy your own salvage."




Does this resolve the questions regarding the function of the salvage and WarShip saving throw rules? If not, let me know and I will try to explain further. Please bear in mind that in the past the rules were not always consistently interpreted. As a general rule of thumb, the current published rules overrule all prior precedents. If in doubt, shoot me a PM or post a question in the rules discussion thread and we can address specific issues on a case by case basis.


Also, +1 to Fatebringer for quoting one of the better Freudian Slips in the old manual.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
Okay, so for fight 1  -  42 FP were captured by a force 1/4 their size, but then recovered. Seems very broken, but this is what happened.

Both of the ships listed above were in Fight 3 wich sustained 30.75 FP across 13 units, so each unit took 2.25 each wich is less then either ships FP.

Browning - 4.75 for just the Winchester
Drake - 6.75 for just the Whirlwind.




Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Dave Baughman on April 30, 2010, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
Okay, so for fight 1  -  42 FP were captured by a force 1/4 their size, but then recovered. Seems very broken, but this is what happened.

Both of the ships listed above were in Fight 3 wich sustained 30.75 FP across 13 units, so each unit took 2.25 each wich is less then either ships FP.

Browning - 4.75 for just the Winchester
Drake - 6.75 for just the Whirlwind.






The damage shoudl be applied to the threatened ships first before any other damage is allocated, so basically the 11.50 FP needed to sink those ships would be consumed first, then the remaining 19.25 would be split evenly over your force.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on April 30, 2010, 09:57:08 PM
Okay, that makes sense. Will try to remember what I did with them.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: LittleH13 on May 01, 2010, 02:27:39 AM
Sorry Dave I didn't see your post but it is good to see that you and I are on the same page...........You are just the Good Cop I guess.  ;)  :P


Here is the link for the rule. We will go by the rule and not talk about how a certain #@$@#%$!#$%!#$%!#$%!#$%! former GM did things.

http://intelser.org/forums/index.php?topic=147.msg1048#msg1048

The ships that rolled low take enough damage to kill them then the remainder can be spread out to the other units fighters and droppers.




Quote from: Parmenion on April 30, 2010, 03:19:04 PM
My apologies for intruding on your thread, but is the Drake and Browning actually destroyed?

Yes, they failed their 5+ rolls in regards Fight #3, however the Terran's only did 30.75FP damage to the CSR forces in that fight.  I've seen before when Oliveash distributed the FP losses evenly across all the different units in a naval fight such as this.  The smaller ships got ravaged, but the larger ships (such as Luxors), survived.

So you might find that the Drake and Browning only suffered around 3FP in actual damage, which is less than their total FP ship value.

Just a thought (and unless we have new battle damage breakup determinations).


Title: Re: [RP/MM] T38: CSR vs TH - Hunting Order - 2312 Planting
Post by: Fatebringer on May 02, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
The part of what Dave said that kills my ships is this

"The damage shoudl be applied to the threatened ships first before any other damage is allocated,"

Before this, I thought that damage was applied evenly to all units.