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Title: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115 *COMPLETED*
Post by: Holt on June 07, 2010, 12:15:55 AM
The Space around the busy world of Sudeten suddenly became even busier as new arrivals entered it, Clan Diamond Sharks.


"This is saKhan Angus Labov of Clan Diamond Shark here to right a wrong committed by the Ravens! We were gifted two Shipyards for our help in repairing the clan fleets, yet you come like thieves and take them from us while no one could defend them! We have honored our agreement and are here to claim what is rightfully ours plus interest."


[OCC
Trial for 3SYs, 2SYs taken from CDS and one more as 'interest'.
Warships:
Poseidon   Regular   Reliable   Warship LF   51
Terror of the Deep   Regular   Reliable   Warship LF   24
Tracy           Regular   Reliable   Warship LF   6
Sharon   Regular   Reliable   Warship LF   6
Speculator   Regular   Reliable   Warship LF   15
Swift Strike   Regular   Reliable   Warship LF   7.25

Ground/ASF:
The Pearl Skate   Elite   Fanatical   Transported Aero   6
The Pearl Skate   Elite   Fanatical   Transported Ground   16.25
VIP saKahn Labov
OCC]

Edit: So yeah its turn 40....
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Daemonknight on June 07, 2010, 02:05:59 AM
((OOC: I believe you mean Blair Atholl. Same hex, but Sudeten is Jade Falcon, Atholl is the Ravens))
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on June 07, 2010, 02:10:41 AM
(SYs were built at Sudeten from what i know, not sure they were moved.)
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Dave Baughman on June 07, 2010, 02:11:50 AM
Quote from: Holt on June 07, 2010, 02:10:41 AM
(SYs were built at Sudeten from what i know, not sure they were moved.)

OOC: I think the confusion is that while its a Jade Falcon system, the target of the trial are guest SYs owned by the Snow Ravens.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Daemonknight on June 07, 2010, 02:32:10 AM
((OOC: Holt, what i'm saying is that the SYs at Sudeten are those built by the Falcons, except for one which is currently non-operational, given to us by the Ravens. If you are attempting to get SYs back from the Ravens, you will have to hit Blair Atholl. The Falcons are not responsible for a deal falling through between you and the Ravens, you'll have to take that up with them.))
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on June 07, 2010, 02:44:40 AM
(All the SYs unless moved are at Sudeten, as you can see here:
http://intelser.org/forums/index.php?topic=233.0 (http://intelser.org/forums/index.php?topic=233.0))
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Daemonknight on June 07, 2010, 03:24:43 AM
Those shipyards must have been moved, because the only ones i have at Sudeten are the 2 Falcon yards, plus one given to us by the Ravens as part of a recently penned deal.

The confusion, like Dave says, could be that the Hex is split: Sudeten is a world in the hex, but the Ravens have their own facilites at Blair Atholl. In any case, the Jade Falcons do not recognize your right to take their facilities, considering the announced target of your raid is the Ravens. You can get the shipyards you seek by going to Blair Atholl and defeating their forces. No matter what your issues with the Ravens are, they do not concern the Falcons, or their facilities.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on June 07, 2010, 03:30:25 AM
(Gonna need Dave to make a call here, well another one.)
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: DisGruntled on June 07, 2010, 01:41:47 PM
Or wait for Fatebringer to speak up ;)

I know from past discussions that they had or were in the process of being packed up to be moved a few cycles back.  I don't know the time table for it though. 

Did the diamond Sharks ever help any of the clans rebuild?  As far as I know they never did as that was about when Chained Lady bowed out.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 07, 2010, 04:34:56 PM
OOC: ((Waves)) Technically, the Shipyards are still above Sudeten and "Guest" facilities. When they have time to be packed and unpacked, they will be moved. We do not considered "Guest" Shipyards because the Falcons along with Blair Atholl have given us the RP they generate (in exchange for the free protection they get for us gaurding them in the same hex as Sudeten). Basically the laborers are either living on the stations or transporting from Blair Athol to work. The header remains the same. RP to come soon.


Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on June 13, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
*Bump*
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 14, 2010, 03:56:58 PM
Noted - working on response
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 14, 2010, 06:43:36 PM
The following is broadcast in the open on all channels shortly after recieving the Diamond Shark batchall.

"This is SaKhan Bryn Cooper, Senior Star Admiral of the Clans. Clan Diamond shark was granted two whole shipyard platforms after the battle for which we fought so hard. Your Khan claimed that in exchange for these platforms, they would use their vast resources to assist with the rebuilding of the our forces until we were all fully recovered from our battle. Where were they when it came time to fulfill their oath? After helping the Spirit Cats, the Sharks helped the Hellions get the Choas Sailor engines barely mobile and then kicked them out of their docks making them go to the Adders to complete repairs. Since then, nothing! The support we received paled in comparison to what was promised! We could not afford to wait until the time when the Sharks felt like fulfilling their commitment, so I sent our warriors to challenge honorably for the platforms back so that Clan Wolf could repair the Sovetskii Soyuz they got as isorla, a ship you were supposed to help them rebuild! But not only did we find that they had not fulfilled their oath to help all of us rebuild, you had left no warriors to defend your claim to the station, not a single Solahma to keep watch in a system crawling with degraza spheroids looking to blow these stations apart. Perhaps they expected the gracious Falcons would continue to gaurd the facilities for them?" Ships in the void began to register as they manauvered closer "The truth is that they failed to uphold their Rede, a very serious offense, and are now come claim more stations! Why? So we can watch you waste even more of our time? They have not earned the right to challenge us for these facilities. Frankly they have not done much of anything to benefit the clans lately, just themselves. They failed in their mission at Ridderkirk...and why is that? Where were their forces supposed to be? I believe they told the ilKhan that they were going gaurding the Clan border with the Draconis Combine. Yet, not only are your forces here instead of there, over half your touman is still in the homeworlds on a desperate land grab!...and this bid? Is this all the ground forces they brought with them to battle the Spheroids? I counted five galaxies trying to claim the territory the Adders took from the Degraza Cobras. FIVE GALAXIES! The Sharks voted for the continuation of our Invasion but it looks like your forces do not back up your claim. Although I do not feel you have earned the right, let it not be said that Clan Snow Raven hides from anyone behind the edicts of others! Despite the ilKhan barring these trials, we shall meet you to do battle in the void, you have stated your forces, and I send the following defensive bid, but beware saKhan Labov, I have seen the Shark in action, and my previous bid is a very liberal one and I will not lose face amongst my trothkin should your bid lacks honor and I am forced to fall back to it.

CSR Final Bid 30 RP

CSRS Carthage (Quxote), Regular / Reliable, 7.5 FP
CSRS Constantinople (Quxote), Regular / Reliable, 7.5 FP
CSRS Eden Rose (Potemkin), Elite / Reliable, 15 FP
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on June 14, 2010, 07:22:04 PM
"saKhan Cooper, how do you know the Sharks had not fulfilled their rede? I have here details on how even after the shipyards were taken from us, how much we helped the Spirit Cats. [Transmission on details of the repair starting turn 37 of a minimum of 35FP per turn and details on the 6 ships repaired by the Sharks before hand.]"

"The Shark have been fulfilling our rede to the letter, but instead of asking us and verifying our commitment you just react."


CDS Final Bid 30FP

Terror of the Deep (Nightlord) R/R 12FP
Tracy (Essex) R/R 6FP
Sharon (Essex) R/R 6FP
Pearl Skate (ASF) E/F 6FP
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 14, 2010, 07:38:44 PM
OOC: Your list of forces includes the Terror of the Deep. My record shows this is a Nightlord, not a Mckenna. Please verify.

"As Senior Star Admiral of the Clans, I asked the forces here what the status of their repairs are.

Per our arrangement, you were supposed to help Clans Hell's Horse, Ice Hellions, and Wolf first because they did not get granted facilities to make their own repairs like the Jade Falcons, Spirit Cats and Star Adders. The fact that you helped the Spirit Cats while you should have been helping others is your first breach of our arrangement. When they left, they left at full keel so I do not know why you claim that continuing to assist them has anything to do with your rede.

Then as I stated, you half heartedly assisted the Ice Hellions. And then, what? You have made no claims as to have assisted the Hell's Horse, Jade Falcon, Wolf, Snow Raven or Star Adder and from my records have not even made offers to, I can certainly attest to this as the highest ranking Raven on Station for my own clan.

And I can see how timid the Shark has become, perhaps you still feel like one of those little Sea Foxes you used to be? You do me honor with your bid by recognizing that you are not better then Clan Snow Raven, merely a merchant in a warrior's uniform playing ... playing it safe."
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on June 14, 2010, 07:51:49 PM
[Fixed, what i get for trying to remember stuff without my notes. Man wish I wish the deal was done under me, so i would know what i am talking about.]



"How could we help multiple clans when all we had the Shipyards was four months? The Spirit vessels is all their was time to repair and we kept assisting them through our other facilities to replace further losses."

"You have made your bid and i have made mine, so the answers we seek about right and wrong are in the battlefield."
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 14, 2010, 08:01:42 PM
"Let all see what your word means and how well you fight. We showed you once what it means to make promised you can not back up, now we shall do it again."

With that the newly christen Quixotes dropped their dropships and joined the Eden Rose in Battle Formation...

This should be a good one. Who'se going to play it out for your side?
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on June 14, 2010, 08:06:55 PM
[I'll see if i can get Dave or Little to do it.]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: LittleH13 on June 16, 2010, 01:59:12 PM
OOC- Holt I have talked with Fate and I would be willing to play the CDS side of this battle. I will let Dave know when I see him at work later today. Fate.......I am so going to mop the space map with you  :P

Quote from: Holt on June 14, 2010, 08:06:55 PM
[I'll see if i can get Dave or Little to do it.]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 21, 2010, 02:35:28 PM
Still need a new day to play this out. Little?
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Marlin on June 23, 2010, 06:28:39 PM
OP: After talking to Fate, I would offer proxy service for the Sharks. I cannot say that I will win, though. But I will try to tear some Quixote a new one at least. If you want me. Should be going over some day's evenings, though. If it does not go fast. Tell me and I will play. Tell me to bug off, I will do that as well.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: chaosxtreme on June 23, 2010, 07:37:57 PM
Ditto I like Aero battles. :-) And I'd like to get better.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 28, 2010, 04:50:20 PM
Will work on this with Little Tonight.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on June 30, 2010, 01:09:01 PM
Game is going on still, will need more time as we're doing a round here, a round there.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 02, 2010, 12:53:03 PM
Didn't see Little last night or this morning. Still working on this. I'll be busy all weekend, possibly pick this up Monday?
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: LittleH13 on July 05, 2010, 12:07:38 AM
This battle has an extension until next weekend or the 11th of July.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: LittleH13 on July 05, 2010, 02:01:11 PM
[OOC- Holt due to MM save game corruption you and Fate need to decide on how you want to finish this.]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on July 05, 2010, 05:41:55 PM
[Fate Simple Res then? Not too happy about it though...]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 01:53:43 PM
Of course neither of us wanted this to go to Simrez. I have discussed accepting what happened up to the point where the file was corrupted and Holt aggred.

One of the Shark Essex's was down to 12 IS has requested and been granted Hegira (Sharon)
The other Essex was down to 17 IS (Tracey) and has now requested and been Granted Hegira.
The Sharks are down to 1 out of 4 Dropships and 27 of 30 fighters.
The Shark Nightlord also took about 120 points of armor damage, but still has plenty left.
The CSR Potemkin has taken moderate damage to the ARS (Down to 67 Armor from 210)

The Simrez will take into account the actions to this point as the Fighters are just getting into range.

441223
-60935 (Essex 1)
-60935 (Essex 2)
-9056 (Overlord 1)
-9056 (Overlord 2)
-10414 (Miraborg)
-3231 (Kirghiz C)
-7162 (Kirgbiz B - Elite)
-5835 (Jengiz A - Elite)
271995

CDS 18.25 FP (No FP taken off for the Nighlord's Armor damage)
CSR: 29 FP (1 FP taken off for the moderate Armor damage to 1 section of the Potemkin)

Not enough to grant the Ravens 2:1 odds, but you can see how poorly off the Sharks were at the time of the corrupted file.

Edit: Updated.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on July 06, 2010, 04:32:03 PM
CDS Damage roll:
[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 6, total 11[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on July 06, 2010, 04:32:30 PM
Crit chance:[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 2, total 8[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on July 06, 2010, 04:35:23 PM
Crit:
[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 3, 4, total 7[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
CSR Damage Roll

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 6, total 10[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 04:37:41 PM
Crit Chance

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 4, total 8[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 04:38:03 PM
1 Crit Roll

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 3, 5, total 8[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on July 06, 2010, 04:47:52 PM
CDS:
18.25 Committed.
10% Captured 1.75
New Committed 16.50

Damage:
16.50 * 95% (80 + 15 crit) = 15.75FP
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on July 06, 2010, 04:56:45 PM
Terror of the Deep survival rollz:
[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 1, 3, total 4[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Holt on July 06, 2010, 05:01:46 PM
CDS:
Total Committed 30FP
Ending
2FP Sharon
2FP Tracy
.50FP after simple res

2.50 + 2.75 Battle Field Salvage
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 05:08:54 PM
CSR Ship Survival Rolls

CSRS Eden Rose (Potemkin) 9.25 FP

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 5, 3, total 8[/blockquote]

CSRS Carthage (Quixote) 4.75 FP

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 1, total 7[/blockquote]

CSRS Constantinople (Quixote) 4.75 FP

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 4, 4, total 8[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 05:11:11 PM
CDS 18.25 FP
CSR: 29 FP

CDS Roll: 11
CSR Roll: 10

CDS Crit
Valor saves the day: reduce damage taken by 20%, increase damage by 15%

CSR Crit
Encircle and capture 10% of opponent's FP, add to salvagea

Before Damage is resolved

CDS 18.25 - 10% (1.75 FP added to Salvage) =  16.5 FP

CDS does 80% +15% = 95%
CSR does 75% - 20% = 55%

CDS deals 16.5 * .95 = 15.75 FP in Damage
CSR deals 29 * .55 = 16 FP in Damage

CDS has 16.5 - 16 = .5 FP remaining
CSR has 29 - 15.75 = 13.25 FP remaining

Damage control is based on damage thru the whole fight.

CSR gains 1.75 FP thru Damage Control
CDS gains 3 FP thru Damage Control

Salvage Pool is

CDS side 30 - .5  - 4 (2 Essex) - 1.75 (Captured forces) = 23.75
CSR side 30 - 13.25 = 16.75
(23.75+16.75) * .5 + 1.75 = 22 FP in salvage

Final Numbers
CSD: 7.5 FP
CSR: 24 FP (30% for Salvage)

CSR Banks 11.25 RP
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 05:12:04 PM
Terror of the Deep - Salvage Roll

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 2, 2, total 4[/blockquote]
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 05:12:38 PM
Ship is unsalvagable as Kraken Missles gutted it's infrastructure.
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 05:23:32 PM
Final Numbers

CDS - 7.5 FP
CDSS Sharon (Essex) - 2 FP
CDSS Tracy (Essex) - 2 FP
Pearl Skate (ASF) - 3.5 FP

CSR Eden Rose (Potemkin) - 13
CSR Carthage (Quixote) - 4.5
CSR Constantinople (Quixote) - 6.5

(CSR damage is spread out based on the Damage to the Potemkin, and the loss of specificly assigned Dropships)
Title: Re: [RP/MM] Turn 40 Trial - CDS vs CSR Sudeten 2115
Post by: Fatebringer on July 06, 2010, 05:24:40 PM
NM. :P One was survival, the other salvage :P