OOC Thread

[Jeyar]

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I think that should be it.

Thanks! (and Dave's post too)

[Dave Baughman]

Just some minor commentary on the legal questions raised in the Grand Council thread.

The limits of the ilKhan's authority are very poorly defined (no doubt a deliberate choice on Big Nick's part). There is past precedent for Trials of Refusal being bid down from the vote ratio so that one Clan could claim the honor of the refusal, but this has also been abused in the past (see the infamous "Falcon saKhan vs. Sellen Cage" trial, where the JF's basically sabotaged an attempt to remove the previous ilKhan by bidding ridiculously below the cutdown and then basically standing in open terrain and letting the ilKhan blow up their warrior).

Diana can easily, by ilKhan fiat, alter the procedures of the Grand Council to suit her own intepretation of how Clan Law should be adjudicated. The collective Khans can always defy her of course, and Grand Loremaster Laurie Tseng (controlled by the Ras Dom players) could always question the jurisprudence, but the ilKhan's word is, literaly, law - giving her significant leeway.

Anyway, that's my two cents. I have no intention to interfere in the RP one way or the other, just wanted to chime in to the OOC questons that were raised.

[JediBear]

My understanding is actually that the ilKhan's power is fairly limited and that our sketchy knowledge of the limits of its authority has more to do with Phelan Kell's poor scholarship than to any desire by NK to leave the office open to abuse.

As far as I'm concerned, Diana is well outside that authority, but I'll hold off on having Laurie challenge it so that Daemonknight has time to deal with any errors.

[Iron Mongoose]

I tend to favor the more nebulious, might makes right aproach.  The ilKhan's powers are whatever the other Khans will let him or her get away with.  Did Ulric have the power to bid for all the Clans?  Did Din Steiner?  Or did they manage it because none of the other Khans stopped them (untill they got Ulric eventualy anyway)?

[Daemonknight]

as has now been pointed out in the thread, i wasnt trying to alter the actual bidding with my first post. It was long because i was OOC trying to both ask if we had done it right, and also stating that in my understanding of the laws(now said to be incorrect, which doesn't surprise me), the ratio wasn't supposed to be changed.

So, to clarify: the post dealing with the ratios question was 100% OOC me asking about protocol.
the 2nd post, where Diana sets up a time limit is the IC portion of that. I didn't want to IC move on my interpretation until i had someone else tell me i was correct...and they've said i was wrong, so I'm glad i did it the way i did.

[Iron Mongoose]

What's the status on the Terran Advisory Council?  Last I can recall, they'd still yet to elect a leader.  One imagines that, especaly given the intensification of the war of late, that who that leader is would be significant and it would be disirable to be getting on with it.  But perhaps I missed something.

[Dave Baughman]

What's the status on the Terran Advisory Council?  Last I can recall, they'd still yet to elect a leader.  One imagines that, especaly given the intensification of the war of late, that who that leader is would be significant and it would be disirable to be getting on with it.  But perhaps I missed something.

That's basically the current situation. Apollyon has been running day to day affairs in the absence of a head of state since both Marsh and Wolf are in the field.

[Marlin]

We need to get the GC trial done soon. As far as I see it, a motion has been called for and seconded. As this would distract even further from the issue, either handwave it away or else. And the bidding seems to have ended. So..

[Marlin]

 

Will there be a Cycle 40 Map thread?

[Daemonknight]

the Trial in the GC has been forestalled untill after involved units complete combat operations. As the last bid i am aware of was the Wolves, the trial can commence as soon as the Wolves and Vipers battle it out.

The GC can move on to other topics at this point.

[GreyJaeger]

the Trial in the GC has been forestalled untill after involved units complete combat operations. As the last bid i am aware of was the Wolves, the trial can commence as soon as the Wolves and Vipers battle it out.

The GC can move on to other topics at this point.

Nope..It was the Sharks.

[Daemonknight]

Ah...well, whoever it was. Still, its out of the GC's hands, Diana's deadline has passed, the bidding is stoped where it was. Its upto the Vipers to choose the location for the trial, and then once they both have their forces availible, it can begin.

[GreyJaeger]

 Thought the challenged dictated the particulars.

Regardless, if the Scorpions do not mind, Manaringaine (2406) should be sufficient.

[Dave Baughman]

Will there be a Cycle 40 Map thread?

If the Hauptmann has not already created one, there will be on in a couple of minutes. I hope you guys will forgive me for being scarce this weekend, but I've been basically running my whole business unit all week due to our team's other supervisor being on vacation and I was beat by the time it was all over. 

[Jeyar]

Well, now for the big (for me at least) aerospace battle over Erod's Escape. If anyone is willing to give me a refresher class on how to run things with the new Strategic Operations/Tactical Operations and MM combo together, that would be great - I have an advantage initially: 58.5 FP vs 40 FP (I'd roll on the 1 to 1 and they'd have to roll on the outnumbered 2 to 1 if it went that far), but then I have to deal with suicidal clanners trying to land and doing loads of damage. Which I will have to be doing anyway, even if I win, but still....