OOC Thread

[Dave Baughman]

Jeyar... I think the 6th June will sort this out for you.

cheers

+1 for Sixth of June



...and yeah, I meant player. I was just typing too fast for my own good LOL

[silentwarrior]

I suppose I am asking if anyone remembers what the "rules" are for GENERATING those dues, and can link them, that way I can make sure I am following them. So no one can 3 turns down the road accuse me of not following them...

Star League Accords:

ARTICLE III: MEMBERSHIP

Membership is voluntary. A member state may resign its membership at any time, provided they give 120 days notice. Failure to give the proper notice will result in that member being considered an enemy of the Star League.

All Realms choosing to establish the Star League by signing this document are immediately considered member states of the Star League. Future members must petition the High Council for inclusion in the Star League. Petitions may be approved by the High Council by a 2/3 majority and ratified by the First Lord. Should the First Lord veto a Membership Petition, the High Council can overrule him by a 3/4 majority vote.

All members are expected to adhere to the following terms.
A. Contribution of 5% member state's GDP to Star League.
B. No attack on other Member States shall be conducted by a Member State with forces larger than a force equivalent to two companies of medium BattleMechs of a technology base consistent with both the pre-Exodus SLDF and modern, domestically-produced Inner Sphere technology, without first attempting arbitration via the High Council. Any attack by forces of a size equivalent to or smaller between Member States may be conducted under the Zellbringen Rules of Engagement and Trial System adopted by the Clans, in an effort to minimize unnecessary bloodshed.  Under these Rules of Engagement, the defending party has the option to refuse said Trial.
C. Attacks by Member States against civilians, civilian infrastructure, multi-use (ie. both military and civilian) infrastructure, and the practice of taking Bondsmen, under any circumstances, is expressly prohibited, as these practices are contrary to the ethical principles espoused by the Star League and its members.
D. Pursuant to Sub-Article C, the Star League Member States shall adopt the original Ares Conventions1, as ratified on June 13, 2412, with the additional prohibitions stated in Sub-Article C.
E. Conflicts between members and non-members are not covered here, but it is strongly suggested the High Council be consulted as a possible mediator to prevent warfare.

[tassa_kay]

So *no one* has anything to say about the call for the Scorpions' Annihilation?  The Adders ignored it completely to crow about Jamie Wolf's death, and the Hellions just "listen in" at the GC and fail to yap about it?  Wow.  Either everyone's waiting to see if they can manipulate their orders sheet to take advantage of the (admittedly early) call to Annihilate, or they're just playing things way out-of-character.  Either way, -1 for all parties involved.  Not the Clan way, kids.

[Holt]

So *no one* has anything to say about the call for the Scorpions' Annihilation?  The Adders ignored it completely to crow about Jamie Wolf's death, and the Hellions just "listen in" at the GC and fail to yap about it?  Wow.  Either everyone's waiting to see if they can manipulate their orders sheet to take advantage of the (admittedly early) call to Annihilate, or they're just playing things way out-of-character.  Either way, -1 for all parties involved.  Not the Clan way, kids.

I am waiting for the actual turn to start, time for me is taken up by finishing the orders.

[tassa_kay]

You have an actual excuse, though, Holt, given that you have to get GM approval for anything major... and if this isn't major, I don't know WHAT is.

[GraeGor]

So *no one* has anything to say about the call for the Scorpions' Annihilation?  The Adders ignored it completely to crow about Jamie Wolf's death, and the Hellions just "listen in" at the GC and fail to yap about it?  Wow.  Either everyone's waiting to see if they can manipulate their orders sheet to take advantage of the (admittedly early) call to Annihilate, or they're just playing things way out-of-character.  Either way, -1 for all parties involved.  Not the Clan way, kids.

Ive been distracted, some things are easier for my mind to twist than others, and hoping inspiration will hit...I dislike forcing my brain to develop game related postings as for me it reads/feels wrong for whichever character Im channeling at the time

[Iron Mongoose]

I'm swamped, I've got a few things in terms of RP I need to hit because of some OOC insights I have, or two wrap up from last turn, or something else.  Its on the list, but I don't know that its as pressing as other things.  Yes, its major.  But the GC moves slowly.  There's time.

[Jeyar]

@ Iron Mongoose and Dave Baughman - thank goodness it was that. I am VERY sensitive about accusations (or whatever wording) that are sent my way due to that early NCR "situation" - in spite of having notes and stuff that people seemed unable to read/pay attention to/acknowledge. Totally ticks me off to this day.

@ silentwarrior – Thank you! I didn't notice that one line, I actually did have that copied for review and thought I had looked it over. (Failed it seems) I think it was because it was one line I missed it, but in any case thank you. I thought that it was the case (5%), but couldn't be sure...

@ Parmenion – if you want to step into the CoPS meeting you are welcome to. Please be aware that there IS concern on the OA's yanking of a factory, not saying where the force that was supposed to cover FoR went – the TC was stuck sort of an extra turn (or 2 – if you toss in the small distance the TC went due to not having access to the OA's MP) there waiting plus other things like that. Shoot - even then I felt guilty leaving the FoR behind with such a small force covering them. I don't want you to feel dumped on, but if you have someone show, those are all things of concern that IC really should be brought up.

On the other hand, if that is a threat – well, my guess was that you've built up with aid a fairly good sized force and will likely wipe out the CoPS and TC forces in the area (even PM's sent to that effect). I've had that impression for a while, but didn't PUSH anyone as I've been instead hoping more players would join – freeing up the possibility of creating a larger and more powerful buffer state that would finally be obvious to everyone was being wiped out by the MoC once you went hunting. Obviously my hope failed – not only for the Fronc Protectorate (or whatever name), but even for a full time Niops and OA player.

Not a slam, but you are obviously far more charismatic than me, and I like keeping as much distance from anything you touch that you might feel should be yours as possible – esp if anyone else can be convinced to interact in the situation. On the flips side, I don't like to put people in a social situation I would be uncomfortable (one could almost say "set up"), but if you want to, it is of course up to you.

[GreyJaeger]

So *no one* has anything to say about the call for the Scorpions' Annihilation?  The Adders ignored it completely to crow about Jamie Wolf's death, and the Hellions just "listen in" at the GC and fail to yap about it?  Wow.  Either everyone's waiting to see if they can manipulate their orders sheet to take advantage of the (admittedly early) call to Annihilate, or they're just playing things way out-of-character.  Either way, -1 for all parties involved.  Not the Clan way, kids.

Ya know Tassa, if you actually thought there was an issue, you could have just sent a PM asking what was up. But instead, you come into the public and make an accusation that I and others are meta-gaming. Nice. Either that, or one more time I have someone telling me how to run my faction. Again, I say nice.

Like Holt, I am waiting for the turn to fully start, and I am also swamped with real life. But just let me drop everything to serve Lord Tassa, anything else your majesty?

[tassa_kay]

Whoa there, Kemo Sabe.  Admittedly, I could've worded it a little better, and for THAT I apologize.  And real life should always take priority, obviously, so if you feel slighted by that, my bad.  But it's funny to me how almost everyone had plenty to say when Marlin organized his little PM roundtable discussion on this very same topic... and yet, when it's put into a public forum, no one can be bothered with it.  Don't like my opinion on the matter?  Too bad.  I stand firmly behind it.

[Cannonshop]

As a member of the audience, I'd be fascinated to learn (having been gone for several turns) why the Scorpions are under threat of Annihilation instead of, say, the more Clan-like practice of Abjuration/Absorption?

[chaosxtreme]

Conspiring with lower castes(scientists) to steal warriors genetic legacies.


Possibly the source and actual user of the nukes that were used against the Steel Vipers.


Allegedly different clans have different levels of intelligence and belief in that intel.

[Dave Baughman]

Conspiring with lower castes(scientists) to steal warriors genetic legacies.

Including successful theft of Nicholas Kerensky's original basekube giftake.

Possibly the source and actual user of the nukes that were used against the Steel Vipers.


Allegedly different clans have different levels of intelligence and belief in that intel.

[GreyWolfActual]

Before I continue more in the CPS Meeting, I want to make sure the information I have is correct.  It seems we may be on different pages and I just want to make sure I am on the same page as my faction leader.

[Jeyar]

Well, my info has that in 2 turns the "asset" will be complete: don't forget that even if we don't change ANY of the rules, the next turn is a free tech roll, so no money being sent. So that means things move 2 "turns" faster than normal (or early).

It also has the Carausius at 4 FP, but with a maximum of 28.5. Since the cost of a warship unit is at least 6 x the FP, that means it would in theory be worth 171. However if it has a LFB (which I just noticed it may) that would actually be worth 285 at a max (also assuming I understand the rules). However once it is built, the cost of repair is straight FP rebuild. which means for a cost of 24.5 you get a unit that would cost the TC over a year to build. Of course, that is assuming I'm also reading the rules and the sheet I have correctly.

Not sure what else there is to look at.