[RP/MM] C38: Clans v. DC/WiE - Leskovik 2113 [Mostly Completed]

Started by DisGruntled, April 14, 2010, 07:10:00 PM

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NVA

Quote from: GreyJaeger on April 30, 2010, 03:48:13 PM
YOU chose to just run the Blockade NVA. YOU did. We kept trying to tell you the rules, yet YOU chose to do it anyways. Just because another player on YOUR side screwed you, don't blame everyone else. This broken rule is why it is going away, because it is broken. I will bet that if the situation was reversed YOU would be doing the EXACT same thing you are trying to disparage those other players for doing.

I followed the rule posted on this forum, as quoted to me by a Demi GM.  Forgive us for not realizing it.  I had already made the choice and made the rolls, so I was stuck with it.  This has nothing to do with the Dracs not being there. 

And, for the record, I would have chosen to put skin in the game, as it were.  Why?  Because it is a sportsmanship position.  I am not here to 'win' at whatever cost.  I am here to try to have fun with other people.  That means, I have to risk losing as well as winning.  Any scenario where absolute victory is assured is not worth it.  So, given the choice, which the players were, on which rule to use, I would have chosen to use the rule that could hurt me too.  I am surprised anyone else would choose not too, but, I have been surprised by humanity's capacity to be..........

NVA

I will state my apologies here.  I am pissed off about this.  ANd, I will be frank, it is at the players, not the game, the GMs, or the situation.  Regardless, I am done discussing it.  The GMs can determine what the final amount of salvage is.  I have already begun the transition of the faction to the GMs to run. 

Dave Baughman

Guys, please direct any further discussion of this issue to PMs (copy myself and H13 on them). I understand that things are a little heated here, and I understand why they are heated from both points of view, but I would appreciate it if we could all discuss this in a civil manner.

We all know the Blockade Running errata was broken - thats why it is being abolished in favor of the original rule, but at the same time the old version of the rule is what is in force right now and the Clan side's players were entirely justified in requesting it be upheld. WIE was not the first faction to suffer at the hands of this rule (see the CHH retreat from Rasalhague for an even more painful example), and very soon the negative impact of this rule will be behind us.

As I said, please direct any further discussion of this issue to PMs.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Apollyon, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.